An argument I'm ready to have. Our QBs.. (2 Viewers)

[Tsakoi]

Incoming high school QBs are waaaaay more prepared as incoming freshmen than QBs have ever been.

So........

I'm of the opinion that even with Haarberg's starts from last year, Dylan Raiola is still more prepared today to be our starter this year.

Dylan's positives:
1: He played for big time high school football programs, so he played with and against other top players.
2: He has a dad and uncle who played and/or worked in the NFL.
3: He's had professional QB training for years by highly paid QB gurus with access to players like Patrick Mahomes and Matthew Stafford.
4: He's been to every top camp, QB showcase or all star game that you can think of.
5: He has been in the QB room every minute of college so far and is an early enrollee.

Compare that to Haarberg.
1: Nope. He played at Kearney Catholic where we had to settle for recruiting him when Frost and that mad scientist looking goofball QB coach missed on everyone else. He was the best athlete on the field in probably 95% of the games he ever played in at the high school level.
2: I don't think anyone in Haarberg's family can compare to Dominic and Donovan in terms of football experience/knowledge.
3: I don't remember HH working with a specialist QB coach before coming to Nebraska.
4: Probably only went to Nebraska's camp.
5: Wasn't even in QB meetings the year before he became a starter after everyone in front of him transfered out or got injured. (Thompson, Sims, Purdy) So he didn't even work with a specialist QB coach while he has been at Nebraska until Mason showed up this year.

I'm not trying to disparage HH, but I think if we knew the actual lifetime hours worked on being a QB then Raiola's total would be double maybe even triple the amount of hours of HH. That's the thing with big time high school QBs now, they are more trained and prepared than college football freshman have ever been in the history of the sport and Dylan had Even more exclusive access to that training than almost anyone else we've ever seen. Maybe only Arch Manning and Chris Simms would have had more. Even Danny Kaelin spent hours upon hours working with the Warren Academy, something that just isn't available to Kearney athletes on any regular basis. HH was literally learning the job on the field (and his performance was admirable) meanwhile Dylan has been tailored for years to be in this spot. That's why even with HH's live game experience I still think Dylan is more prepared.


Disclaimer: This entire post has just been a brain dump of half thought out theories I've been batting around while I sit here waiting for my work to begin. It is a product of boredom.

 

[Ripping Lips]

One thing that I learned from listening to the DR on BWTB, he never started football until his FR year in HS and was more into baseball and was always afraid of getting hit. Could be something to watch, but the young man seems poised so far.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Haarberg traveled to Colorado practically every week for QB guru training.

Important to note that KCHS runs a true spread offense, I'm talking 4 and 5 WR every single play, quads, trips etc etc. Primarily shotgun.

Also important to note im a KCHS alumni 😂

 

[kenyanfeline]

Are you nervous that the coaches are going to start HH?

I get all of this. I just don’t think there’s even an “argument” to be had.

Dylan is our guy.

 

[Tsakoi]

Are you nervous that the coaches are going to start HH?

I get all of this. I just don’t think there’s even an “argument” to be had.

Dylan is our guy.

No, my main point is just that current freshmen aren't like the freshmen of the past. They are way more polished and specialized. And for Dylan it's probably an extra degree higher than most. It's actually probably true for every position too. Kids have access to things that just didn't exist when I was growing up.

 

[Tyneb23]

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

No, my main point is just that current freshmen aren't like the freshmen of the past. They are way more polished and specialized. And for Dylan it's probably an extra degree higher than most. It's actually probably true for every position too. Kids have access to things that just didn't exist when I was growing up.

It's true, my just turned 10 year old goes to football two to three times a week and the staff are former college HCs or former NFL players. He knows more about coverages and hand placement, route running, etc. than I did by the time I was in HS.

 

[1HuskerDad]

It’s the same with all youth sports. Whether it’s football, basketball or baseball. The use of technology along with specialized training facilities puts these kids light years ahead.

 

[ShortSideOption]

Haarberg is ahead in knowledge of the offense and experience within it for what it’s worth. I think those things are very important when it comes to “who is more prepared.”

 

[Baron Winnebago]

The more thought provoking discussion take is: Haarberg is a good enough QB that it's not worth the practice reps to bring in a 4th guy as a "safety net"

 

[Toe]

I'm of the opinion that even with Haarberg's starts from last year, Dylan Raiola is still more prepared today to be our starter this year.

Is there actually anyone who thinks otherwise?

 

[Goskers07]

Fwiw, Haarberg wasn't a take because we missed everyone else. The only other QB we really even went after, if memory serves, was Costelli.

That being said, no one disagrees that Dylan is the starter. It's simply because he's the better QB, none of the nuance you tried to add needed.

 

[BluesBucksNHuskers]

I think helmet comms are going to close the gap with how long it takes a QB to be ready as well. Less time learning signs, coaches have until 15 seconds left in the play clock to guide their eyes and help them with pre-snap reads and protections.

Honestly I wonder how this impacts the Wisconsins and Iowas who typically run the play clock down because allowing defenses to reset after comms are off is going to be a huge disadvantage.

 

[doublewing]

HH is a bad P5 starting QB but he'll play and maybe even start some games next year. Keeping a QB healthy for a full season is not something we're good at and I will never discount the risks of a true FR QB. I'd expect Kaelin to redshirt making HH #2. .

I hope HH has improved because we'll likely need him.

 

[huskerj12]

 

[Alcaus]

The only real analysis I've needed to do is identify the fact that our two incoming freshman appear to be competing on-par (or better) with our returning starter who won 5 games last year.

 

[Pipe Line]

Yeah.........gonna go ahead and roll with the 5 star as long as he's around and prepare to make it as successful as possible.....if I'm Coach Rhule. Everyone else can battle for second and be prepared if their opportunity comes.

 

[Cornicator]

Is this an argument that needs to occur? I'm confused.

 

[Husker_in_OK]

The only thing Raiola doesn't have over HH is college game experience. But he absolutely needs to start Game #1. I'm not a fan of what others have been saying and that's to groom Raiola and have him start later in the year. I'd rather him get the first game jitters out of the way vs UTEP rather than the B1G schedule.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Is this an argument that needs to occur? I'm confused.

I took it as seriously as I'd take a post that argued the pros and cons of being rich